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Interview: Frank Spotnitz on “Detour”

Happy new year! Perhaps the last year without an X-Files reboot? We continue our catch-up of 30th anniversary interviews with an audio commentary of “5X04: Detour” with writer Frank Spotnitz thanks to The X-Cast: An X-Files Podcast! Summary below:

  • With TXF, the writers-producers explicitly tried to make something that would last the pass of time [30 years later, congratulations!]; they had in mind Jaws (leave it to the imagination to fill the blanks); they were conscious to write strong women characters (like when Scully had to protect an impaired Mulder); the smart MSR was at the heart of the show
  • Shooting in the woods was a cost-saving measure, but weather made it costly (because of the rain, they had to build the camp fire scene in a set); How The Ghosts Stole Christmas was also a cost-saving ep but set building made it very expensive; Dod Kalm was successful in saving money
  • Behind the names: Marty and Michael were FS’s business partners; Louis was a cousin of FS; Michelle Fazekas was a 1013 assistant; West Virginia setting is where FS’s mother is from; Jeff Glaser was a Fox executive that gave them notes (“it’s only scary as it is believable”)
  • Leon County: a clue to Ponce de Leon
  • FS had done a lot of mytharc at that point, he wanted to do a stand-alone
  • Inspiration: things that scared FS when he was a kid, like a dog barking at something unknown at night; was fascinated with tree rings
  • Introductiory scenes: invest the viewer in secondary characters before something bad happens; also, FS had just become a parent a few years before
  • FBI team-building comedy scene was Carter’s idea
  • Brett Dowler had done a lot of 2nd unit directing, this was his first ep as director
  • Leonard Betts: Spotnitz-Gilligan-Shiban were in competitiong with Morgan-Wong on which ep would make it to Superbowl
  • FS was present in Vancouver for prepping and just the first day of shooting, then back to LA for scripts and post for other eps
  • 1930s The Invisible Man on the TV: it was all about whether they could afford licensing costs
  • Ground the episodes in reality: Scully is like the smartest member of the audience, if you can erode her skepticism then the script works
  • During s2 they had to go to the library for research, by s5 they had internet
  • Civilization is encroahing on nature, that’s why creatures react
  • Mark Snow wrote so much music, more than the average TV show; editing was done without music, then they’d go to Mark’s home in Santa Monica to hear it with music
  • Beyond s6 they were wondering what can they say that is new? s8-9 had a different storytelling format, leaning more into The Twilight Zone influences
  • Director of photography Joel Ransom used a lot of steadicam; even in interiors scenes the light is not flat, half their faces are in shadow
  • FS developed a show with Adam Rapp (brother of actor Anthony Rapp) but that didn’t get made
  • Creature stealing stones: inspired by Planet of the Apes (humans steal clothes), one of FS’s favourites
  • They typically had 8 days main unit, at least 2 days 2nd unit (which here did things like POV shots of the forest); the record was Jose Chung’s, 20 days (!)
  • Every 12 pages of script there had to be a cliffhanger for the act break, that forced good discipline for script writing; FS still does it even if there’s no need for commercials breaks
  • Mulder’s line “I don’t wanna restle” was improvised; there was very little ad-libbing, actors were used to follow the script closely, a lot of pressure to make the air date; today, there are daily phone calls, actors feel more empowered and change lines, the culture of movie-making has moved to TV, sometimes it is for the better
  • Running out of bullets: FS compares it to Hitchcock’s “Notorious”, where Cary Grant and Claude Rains run out of champagne
  • Mulder’s disappearance: they trimmed individual frames to make it seem sudden
  • The monster was a mix of practical and early CG effects
  • FS wanted M&S alone scene like in Quagmire; they rarely did character continuity, like Scully reflecting on her cancer
  • Originally Scully was to sing Hank Williams’ “I’m so lonesome I could cry” but GA said she can’t sing, the only thing she can sing was “Jeremiah…”
  • They were stuck during script writing on how to get them out of that hole; the solution was team building
  • The timing was down to the second for the ad breaks, they were shaving frames off shots (!); editing was done in a trailer at the end of the Fox lot
  • FS thought DD mispronounced “conquistadors” but he was right
  • They were careful with whose POV they were showing, that final shot with the monster was not Scully’s
  • Ending: there’s still something left, in typical TXF fashion

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Interview: Chris Carter on “The Erlenmeyer Flask”

An audio commentary of “1X23: The Erlenmeyer Flask” with Chris Carter, coming from The X-Cast: An X-Files Podcast recorded for the 30th anniversary of The X-Files! In a rare treat, The Creator talks about one of the most important episodes of the series and is, well, depending on what you compare it to, tight-lipped or talkative! Highlights below!

  • opening sequence: shot in North Vancouver docks, used several times, have now been torn down [as I can sadly confirm]
  • last episode of the season and he was really tired, wrote this in his room at the Sutton Place Hotel in Vancouver [still exists!], put Stone’s “JFK” on and became the background while writing (could have influenced the idea to kill Deep Throat, “sometimes you have to kill your darlings”)
  • he sat a long while with the people that did the opening credits to fine-tune them
  • many name references: Roy Lacerio: CC played softball with; Danny Valladeo: was pitcher in CC’s high school baseball team [ha! so it’s confirmed he’s supposed to be named Valladeo!]; Berube: named after a fan who wrote a letter to CC about what she liked and didn’t like about the show; Ardis: name of street in Bellflower where his oldest friend grew up in; William Secare, Fort Marlene: surely there’s a story there but he doesn’t remember
  • they might have known that there was going to be s2 by this point, they were told they would have a short vacation
  • episode inspired by conversations with virologist Anne Simon about DNA and nucleotides, became science advisor to the show [see analysis of her book on the science of TXF], Carpenter was her married name; and with Bob Hardy (?), South California doctor who was working on the Human Genome Project
  • many takes to have monkey try to bite Scully
  • all scripted, no ad libs, fast production, no room to improvise
  • if you want to give someone a “tutorial” on what the mythology is about, you show them Pilot, Deep Throat, The Erlenmeyer Flask
  • he can remember the name of the actor of Crew Cut Man, Lindsey Ginter!
  • they managed to put so much in a single episode because they plotted out so intricately and elaborately
  • originally 7 days of shooting, then 8, then additionally 5-8 days of 2nd unit working concurrently, sometimes 3rd unit
  • detective scenes come from his love of “Sherlock Holmes”
  • excellent directing from RW Goodwin, director of photography John Bartley set the dark visual tone of the show
  • can remember every frame of “All The President’s Men” [I can believe that!]
  • actually shot at a real Pandora Street in Vancouver
  • he has Zeus Storage sign and alien fetus in his office
  • Spielberg had called “Close Encounters” speculative fiction; CC gave in to the characterization “science fiction” eventually [I guess CC’s strong dislike of the term science fiction came from its pulpy connotation while he was growing up in the 60s-70s?]
  • CC had in mind a high-tech facility, Alex Gansa suggested the look of a dark musty rusty warehouse
  • from the get go TXF was not just going to be an alien show, although the mythology was going to be about that
  • importance of science, developed a network of people they could call to get things right
  • was the last episode of the season so he got to be on set for the whole shooting
  • he wanted to direct an episode as soon as possible, but producing was very time consuming, so it ended up happening in s2
  • Deep Throat, Syndicate and everything else derived from the idea of the character of CSM
  • after shooting this, GA went on vacation and got married
  • GA was not an experienced driver, had difficulty with shooting
  • alien fetus design: props and art department took an idea and always made it better
  • he didn’t have Red Museum episode in mind yet, but it was derived from Deep Throat’s line
  • Deep Throat shooting scene: it was nearing dawn, cameras set up so that it would look night
  • removing Scully’s boyfriend [Ethan] made Scully’s relationship with Mulder so much more tense

https://wemadethispodcasts.com/podcast/the-x-cast-an-x-files-podcast/episode/the-x-files-30-commentary-track-the-erlenmeyer-flask-ft-chris-carter